Hi,

Now I see what you mean.

Maurits, currently on vacation, has built a grok app that does exactly that. 
But it is not integrated in XM yet. As soon as he's back I'll let him contact 
you about it, to see how we can both be happy ! :)

Kind regards,

Jean-Paul


Dylan Jay wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jean-Paul Ladage [mailto:j.ladage@...]
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:07 PM
>> To: extreme-management-discussion@...
>> Subject: Re: [Extreme Management discussion] ical integrations
>>
>> Hi
>> DylanJay wrote:
>>> Just brainstorming here but wanted to know what you guys thought of this
>> idea.
>>> synching with individuals icals.
>>> Lets say
>>> - I add an event to my cal that represents either a past or future
>> booking (scheduling).
>>> - I add a url to the task into that event
>>> - some kind of synchronisation occurs in plone to pull that ical event
>> in and hook it up to a real booking in xm.
>>
>> The problem is that you will have to add a start datetime and end datetime
>> to a
>> booking instead of just the timedelta (duration) is stored. At zest we
>> prefer
>> not to plan our developers' time at the task level, because that feels
>> like
>> micro-management.
> 
> I agree about micromanagement and do acknowledge that is a design feature of
> xm.
> 
> However you wouldn't need to add at start and end dates to the xm web UI. It
> could be purely reserved for the ical interface. It then becomes just a nice
> UI for mapping out your own plans or use of time in the past. Managers may
> never see start and stop times. And since ical is a well supported standard
> it opens up a large range of tools that people are already probably using
> (outlook, google calendar etc) thus making it convenient.
> 
>> We do have some experience with tracking time locally using timelog. We
>> can
>> provide each developer with a timelog formatted list of currently assigned
>> tasks. When registering an activity change in timelog you can select from
>> the
>> list of tasks.
>>
>> http://www.kclee.de/clemens/java/timelog/index.html
>>
>> Next step would be uploading the timelog file so the server can add the
>> corresponding bookings.
>>
>> Also a command-line tool is available.
> 
> Also a good idea. But sounds a little fiddly synching the data between xm
> and timelog. Perhaps just improving the bookings UI to be more like
> http://www.88miles.net/ might be a better win.
> 
>>
>>> Advanced features.
>>> - synch the other way. creating bookings creates events in my cal which
>> are marked as busy.
>>> - task guessing: no url present the system could put some urls into the
>> event which it things match the name of the event to a task. You can then
>> edit the event in outlook etc and remove the urls which aren't applicable.
>> then it creates a real booking.
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